| | "That is correct. However, that does not mean nor indicate that I am not interested in learning of the subject. One learns by reading, asking questions, engaging in debate, comparing ideas, etc. I did not, and do not, reject objectivism out of hand - I don't know enough about the subject one way or the other. Most of what I do know has been gleaned from the sites of Mr. Tremblay, Mr. Kelly and ARI. Heck, I even went and bought "Atlas Shrugged" recently. Haven't read it yet, it's next on the agenda"
Fine. All well and good. But the fact remains that you and Mr. Morrow said some totally outlandish, slanderous shit. I'm not one to pull any punches, and if you read back over the "francois is a troll" episode, YOU will see that Mr. Morrow -- at least -- was being a total imbecile. "I've not misrepresented objectivism to the best of my knowledge. Nor have I launched any attacks, provoked or otherwise. I did address the rude response(s), a matter of dignity and personal pride. My reaction is not unlike your reaction, we both felt the need to address the subject."
Okay, Mr. 2bits, we're all listening: Explain (in your own words), the previous dealings between yourself and Francois, which caused him to rebuff your holiday wishes. IF you (and Mr. Morrow) had done so from the first, we wouldn't have this disgusting little flame war.
"Your point on unprovoked personal slurs is well-taken. Unfortunately your first point about dialog is somewhat compromised by your last statement. In fact, it is somewhat similar to the "you're either with us, or against us" doctrine, an unacceptable form of dialog which allows no compromise, no mutual understanding."
'Mutual understanding" begins with a mutual context, which has been SORELY LACKING in your (and your pals) posts so far. All we get is out-of-context fragments of a thread from ANOTHER BOARD, accompanied by Mr. Morrow's assertions of Trolldom for Francois, in blatant contradiction to everything we've seen here ourselves. Until, and unless, you explain the back-story to this, you and your pal Morrow are going to look like idiots. NO help for it, it's just the nature of the game. By the way, I'm going to be re-reading "atlas shrugged" on the way down to florida tomorrow, for the start of 2 weeks vacation. I'm going to miss how this all plays out, unless I can find a decent interenet connection. How sad. from Morrow: "Hope you stick around 2BitsWorth – I might be banned soon, according to the owner. So what else is new"
Oh, you poor little persecuted man, you! We can't have a spam-artist banned, now can we???? You are a dingy little worm. 2bits I can forgive, to some degree, because he is actually halfway honorable in his approach to all of this, but YOU just keep on with the persecuted little BITCH-act. Fine. You want to be that way? I'm going to be out of town for 2 weeks, and won't have to read your drivel. If your actions on THIS board are any indication, then Franc was justified in treating you like garbage on the other board.
Joy was referring to people like YOU, you slimy little freak.
2bits: state yoru peace. What exactly is your beef with Francois? WHy should we all go rummaging through another thread on another board, just to substantiate your bullshit flamewar that Morrow wanted? What does it gain anybody? I don't think you wanted this to go down like it did, 2bits. I think you have been used by Morrow, like all of us others, here. Just explain your peace, and if/when I get back from FLorida, I'll go over myself and look at the thread. Otherwise, just take your holiday greetings elsewhere. Franc obviously doesn't want them, and if they're going to precipitate a flame-war, neither do I. I have very little tolerance for bullshit like this. Ideological squabbles are fine, but unprovoked flamewars such as this are just stupid. IN the immortal words of Rodney king :"Can't we all just get along?" :)
(Except for you, MOrrow: you suck!)
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