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Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:55pmSanction this postReply
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Wow.  That type of thing just scares the ever-lovin' crap out of me.

Guess I'd better get out my American flag and start chanting the Neocon mantra. 

Yay for government!  Yay for Big Brother!  Yay for the future World-State!

Oh, and make sure you spy on me in private.  I'd hate to find out that I'm a thought criminal.




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Friday, May 19, 2006 - 9:33amSanction this postReply
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New Hampshire state motto (on license plates): Live Free or Die!

Proposed D.C. motto (on subliminal billboards everywhere): Rat out your neighbor!

Value of recognizing the difference: priceless

Ed





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Friday, May 19, 2006 - 9:45amSanction this postReply
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I really salute Ed Hudgins on this. Finally there's a prominent Objectivist willing to stick up for civil liberties. It's a shame and a serious error to surrender this issue to the libertarians and leftists.



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Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:16amSanction this postReply
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I salute the author as well. The other thing that Americans seem to not understand is that perhaps your ordinary American has nothing to fear from his calls being tracked. But not all Americans are ordinary. Some are journalists that criticize the current administration. Some are politicians who dissent and likewise criticize this administration. Some are prominent scholars in think tanks such as ARI, TOC, Cato institute, etc. that criticize this President and his policies.

We know that Presidents will do what they can to discredit a dissenter by twisting the truth and propagandizing their political and intellectual opponents by using private information about their opponents obtained without any judicial oversight. Or use trumped up charges against a dissenter on crimes that barely meet the moral definition of a crime. Or private information that indicates no crime but are of an embarrassing, personal nature.

E.g., could a prominent journalist who criticizes the president abuse prescription drugs? Could happen, so why not as the President destroy his intellectual opponent by prosecuting his dissenter on the phony crime of prescription drug abuse? Information about that abuse that he obtained without any judicial oversight? Is it that far a stretch of the imagination?

Need we be reminded of history? Nixon, Johnson, et al all wiretapped dissenters and even each other!

And library records being obtained without warrant could undermine Free Speech. If I take out a book from the library where I disagree with the author's writings, say for example Mein Kompf or Das Kapital, am I then guilty by association? What if I just want to see the bad argument so I know how to argue against it? Would you feel free to take out any book that you wish to dissent against its author without fear of the government misconstruing your actions?




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Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:50amSanction this postReply
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Thanks guys!

I also posted this on Free Republic and it was interesting to see how many conservatives still didn't get it, even when faced with the prospect of President Hillary having such power.

Bill Clinton indeed used the IRS against think tanks he didn't like. Yes, Johnson, Nixon and Wee Willy Clinton all abused power. Parts of the Bush Patriot Act literally came straight from the Reno Justice Dept.

Yet a lot of conservatives -- though not all -- can only think "Republican vs. Democrat" rather than in principles. This is where Objectivists have an advantage that we should press.




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Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:55amSanction this postReply
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Nothing new - the Alien and Sedition Acts were in the Adams administration, so this has been from the beginning.....



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Friday, May 19, 2006 - 1:19pmSanction this postReply
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Great article Ed!

Ethan




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