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Post 40

Thursday, March 6 - 4:50pmSanction this postReply
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"Bob (which is the same thing backwards, as forwards) ..." It's also the action of going backwards and forwards. Which fits in nicely with this thread's title, as well!




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Thursday, March 6 - 5:06pmSanction this postReply
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Except the problem with our own Bob is that there's no net progress in the process! Apparently, the ole' he smoke & mirrors has turned into the bob & weave, and it's Bob weaving his self-produced web of intellectual stasis.

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Ed
[a gentleman is he who never insults another unintentionally]



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Friday, March 7 - 9:11amSanction this postReply
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Wasn't sure if I should make that joke, since actually I like this Bob better than a few other Bobs I have encountered online. Not sure why--maybe it's because I sense that his roar is much worse than his bite.



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Friday, March 7 - 1:40pmSanction this postReply
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I like Bob, too (for some reason).

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Tuesday, April 15 - 1:12pmSanction this postReply
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I received this nice e-mail today I wanted to share:

Today, I received an unsolicited mailing, the content of which appeared familiar to me, even though it was written by someone who's name seemed familiar to me (John Flinn). Since I receive junk mail from time to time, I decided to entertain myself and read the letter. As I'm sure you've guessed by now, it was from a "secret society" who thought that I'm "special" and wanted me to "join them", blah blah blah. I reached into my desk drawer and pulled out an envelope with a booklet in it that was sent to me two years ago when I received a similar letter from the "Nouveau-Tech society", asking me to join them. They sent me a small free booklet that was supposed to contain  "The Greatest Kept Secret of All Time for Money, Power, and Romantic Love!" As you know, it was just testimonial stories designed to invoke desires in the reader for a better life. The funny thing about all this is that, in 2000, I received the same letter, ordered and received the same useless 7 story booklet, fell for the sales pitch and bought "The Neo-Tech Discovery", and I still have that book on a shelf in a closet.  You'd think that the Neo Tech publishing company kept records to know who their customers are. You'd think that, the free booklet that promised secrets would've delivered something more than a sales pitch to buy books. I read that book from cover to cover twice and while I could see the logic in it's Objectivism based foundation, as I read the book, I kept waiting for the big secret that was supposed to deliver the promise of wealth, power, and endless love. What I got was exactly what you detailed on your article- The rantings of a mad man.

I had questions about whole "biological immortality bend" that were never answered. 
Biological immortality makes no sense. A world where no one dies will eventually become over crowded, natural resources will eventually be used up, then what? Colonize other worlds? Ok. Technology advances could make that possible, but if we assume that there is intelligent life on other worlds, what race of beings would allow another race to overpopulate the universe uncontrolled? If we follow this tract, wouldn't it eventually lead to some advanced race exterminating a biologically immortal humanity somehow? The extension of human life is one thing. Biological immortality is another subject entirely. I'm not sure that would be in our best interest, much less, the universe's.
 
The whole Zon thing sounds suspiciously to me like the creation of an extraterrestrial based "God" to  whom it appears that Wallace's reverence seems alot like "worship" to me.  I rejected religion based Mysticism before I was even out of puberty. I always found it strange how seemingly intelligent humans in "modern times" would follow a book without question (the Bible) written long before any of them were even born, by people who claim to have been either ordered, directed, or inspired by God to write it (The Mormons have a similar "Bible" written by someone who claims to have been directed to tablets lying in the grass and told what the translation of the inscriptions were). I read through the Bible and never accepted or believed any of it without question (try that in the bible belt South where I live and see how people look at you... LOL). In edition to that, I never have been a member of any church and have never paid any tithe because I immediately spotted the scam on that, which made me further question the Bible, it's content as authentically being "The word of God", and the true motive of preachers in churches who use this tactic to trick people out of ten% of their earnings. When I was married, my wife and I attended her church. I watched as the preacher (who always arrived in his brand new Cadillac and was never seen wearing the same suit, shirt, tie, shoes, or socks within the year I attended with her) passed the collection plate around the church an average of three times each Sunday, claiming that he was paying extra on the church mortgage to pay it off early, and the sheep followed the shepherd without question, emptying their wallets, as I passed the collection plate to the person next to me without every contributing to his the pastor's luxury lifestyle (the real reason behind the Tithe).

I do recognize that human beings seem to have the inherent need to be led by authority figures and told what to do, how to live, what to think and feel (I have never had these needs), and I also recognize how easy it is for "Neo-cheaters" to control masses of people with mysticism, which they clearly do not question. I began my search for truth at a young age and I found this "Neo-Tech Discovery" started off making logical sense and ultimately descended into nonsense and madness, but I did not realize why until I read your article and subsequent links to your site. You have put the whole thing together in a way that makes total logical sense to me. Being one who is not inspired by sales pitches that clearly are meant to invoke emotion, I tend more toward logic and reason, which is very interesting considering that I am an artist, poet, and musician/guitarist (25 years experience as a guitarist/musician). Considering all of this as well as the fact that, having sold me the Neo-Tech Discovery in 2000, sending me the same sales pitch letter to get me to buy it again in 2006 and just now in 2008, it is clear to me that this Neo-Nonsense is nothing more than a scam meant to play on the desires of the average person in this economy who wants a better life, just like so many Internet and mail order scams out there. I washed my hands of this Neo- Nonsense 8 years ago and thanks to your informative writings, I completely understand the inner workings of the scam as well as how many have fallen prey to it. Thanks for the info. I for one appreciate the time and effort you put into it.


(Edited by Luke Setzer on 4/15, 1:14pm)




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Thursday, June 19 - 6:17pmSanction this postReply
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Luke, I must say you have written an excellent essay on Neo-Tech. If you consider yourself to be a "True" Objectivist, much of the Neo-Tech philosophy would be incompatible with Objectivism. But of course Frank R Wallace used several sources to create Neo-Tech. I do believe the early Neo-Tech books are still worth reading.

Of course his advanced writings on Zon and Zonpower are quite a bit harder to make sense of. And if I remember correctly, somewhere in one of his books he stated most people wouldn't get the message, whatever it was supposed to be. I will admit i have bought some of his books directly from Neo-Tech, but I have also purchased many of them on the used market, simply to save money. I really don't think you should have to publically apologize for ever having an interest in Neo-Tech.

As I mentioned, their earlier books were and are still worth reading. However, I think the most glaring error of Neo-Tech is that they never pointed people in the right direction on how to start thinking for one's self. I cannot blame you for not having anything to do with the "New" Nouveau Tech Society and its many variations. They seem to have abandoned their old customers all together and have focused on their over-priced Secret Societies.

I suppose if you really wanted a copy of their "New Inner Secrets" you can easily find them on eBay or the used book market considerably cheaper than their $200 price. I too do not have any involvement with the "New Neo-Tech!" And as such I cannot endorse their current business practises.





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